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 Firebird Headlight conversion
Küsimuseks siis, et kas keegi on 4gen firebirdi hid conversioni vastu huvi tundnud? Nimelt, kas HID lambid on võimelised käituma nii lähi kui ka kaugtuledena? enamustel euroautodel tundub neid tulesid olevat nagu ämblikul silmi, sellest ka kahtlus et kas mitte ühtedest reflektoritest lähituli, teistest kaugtuli ei paista. |
| 15.03.2006 at 15:44 |
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peep
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Firebird Headlight conversion
Vähemalt minu biksenonitega autol on lähi ja kaugtuli sama pirniga. Biksenon süsteemiga Touaregil oli "vist" eraldi ehk eks neid süsteeme võib erinevaid olla. Üldse võivad muidugi ksenonid olla ka kaugtuledeks. |
| 15.03.2006 at 16:03 |
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F.I.R.E
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Firebird Headlight conversion
sellise tulemuse saamiseks
vaja siis:
see
ja need
kogukulu 275$ + post |
| 15.03.2006 at 16:59 |
2 edits. Last edited 15.03.2006 at 17:00 by F.I.R.E
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Taurus_93
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Firebird Headlight conversion
xenonit eraldi kaugtulena ei kasutata. Süttimisaeg on miinuseks ja käivitamine/süttimine köige rohkem xenonit kulutab. Kaugtulena ainult bi saadaval.
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| 15.03.2006 at 17:26 |
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anryo
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Firebird Headlight conversion
Kui sa oled tellimas, siis ehk löön kampa ka. Uurin nati enne. Camarol ju kaks eraldi laternat - sinna muid asju vaja.
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| 15.03.2006 at 17:43 |
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peep
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Firebird Headlight conversion
Taurus_93'l on õigus, ju siis Touaregil on lisaks süttiv pirn halogeen, lihtsalt optilise läätse tagant ei paista välja.
See konkreetne kit, mis Firele pakutakse ei ole küll biksenon aga sellest vist sai teema algataja aru ka. |
| 15.03.2006 at 17:56 |
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Taurus_93
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Firebird Headlight conversion
quote:
peep: Taurus_93'l on õigus, ju siis Touaregil on lisaks süttiv pirn halogeen, lihtsalt optilise läätse tagant ei paista välja.
See konkreetne kit, mis Firele pakutakse ei ole küll biksenon aga sellest vist sai teema algataja aru ka.
Lisaks ongi halogeen, see körvaldab süttimise viiteaja. Ja lähitule pirn keeratakse ülespoole vöi liigutatakse peegel pealt ära(bi-ksenoonil) S-klass mersul ka alates 2004 esituled sama systemiga
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Cadillac STS 3,6 05´
Subaru Outback 2.5 AWD 07´
Ex: Taurus LX 93´ (4 tükki oli neid lausa)
Ex: Chrysler 300M 00´
Yamaha YZF-R6 |
| 15.03.2006 at 18:05 |
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peep
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Firebird Headlight conversion
Näiteks mu Audil keeratakse ülespoole.
Olen juba igiammusest ajast ksenonitega kulgenud eri liikuritega ja võin öelda oma subjektiivse hinnangu, et pooltule halogeen vs. ksenon on efekt oluliselt lahjem kui kaugtule halogeen vs. ksenon. Viimase puhul on vahe mäekõrgune, vähemalt nendel autodel, mida olen proovida saanud - kellel on võimalus valida ja rahakott lubab, siis seda investeeringut te ei pea kahetsema. |
| 15.03.2006 at 18:27 |
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F.I.R.E
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Firebird Headlight conversion
njah, minu viga, tegelikult siis vaja seda kitti, mis muidugi kogu projektile 110$ juurde lisab... 
siiski pole ka eelmisel kitil viga miskit, kuna firebirdi kaugtuledel pole suht viga miskit, kuid lähituled on allpool igasugust arvestust. |
| 16.03.2006 at 12:15 |
1 edit. Last edited 16.03.2006 at 14:45 by F.I.R.E
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anryo
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Firebird Headlight conversion
10000K on siiski liiga kõrge temperatuur, ehk valgus liiga lilla. Ma soovitaks siiski valida 6500K või 8000K - need ka silma kenamad vaadata.
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| 16.03.2006 at 17:15 |
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F.I.R.E
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Firebird Headlight conversion
lugesin selle kohta isegi, samas vaatasin täna ise ühe tuttava mersu küljes seda 10000k versiooni, ei tundunud üldse nii lilla, pigem tumesinine, päris lillaks minevat 11k-13k kitid.... aga ex näis, hinnavahet muidu ei tundu olevat erinevatel tempidel. kas keegi oskab öelda, kas mingi kuluvusvahe on, näiteks et kõrgem temp küpseb kiiremini või miskit? |
| 16.03.2006 at 19:16 |
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Taurus_93
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Firebird Headlight conversion
Kuluvuse vahet ei tohiks olla, aga 4000K pirni valgusjõud on 1/3 vörra tugevam kui 10000K, st. mida sinisem valgus, seda kõrgem temp ja seda väiksem valgusjõud. soovitan 5000K.
Vöta möni paigaldatud aftermarket kitiga auto, millel 10000K pirnid, sõida pimedas, vihmaga, ja uuel teel(süsimust asfalt) ja soovid, et oleksid oma halogeenid ette jätnud. Omad kogemused. Kindlasti proovi enne.
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Cadillac STS 3,6 05´
Subaru Outback 2.5 AWD 07´
Ex: Taurus LX 93´ (4 tükki oli neid lausa)
Ex: Chrysler 300M 00´
Yamaha YZF-R6 |
| 16.03.2006 at 19:42 |
1 edit. Last edited 16.03.2006 at 19:53 by Taurus_93
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Taurus_93
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Firebird Headlight conversion
http://www.resodance.com/ali/xenon.html
The lamps with color temperatures of 5400 Kelvin and 6000 Kelvin (no degrees - Kelvin is an absolute scale) are for lamps categorized and labeled as DR lamps. The DR stands for Daytime Running lamps - these lamps are not approved for nighttime usage. The xenon lamps that are approved for nighttime use all have a color temperature of 4100 Kelvin - not too far from metal halide sources. These lamps are rated at 3200 lumens. While some older halogen headlights produce around 1000 lumens most of the newer sealed beam lamps have a significantly higher lumen output. Both of my cars use H7 lamps that produce 1500+ lumens.
Loodan, et on abi.
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Cadillac STS 3,6 05´
Subaru Outback 2.5 AWD 07´
Ex: Taurus LX 93´ (4 tükki oli neid lausa)
Ex: Chrysler 300M 00´
Yamaha YZF-R6 |
| 16.03.2006 at 19:56 |
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F.I.R.E
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Firebird Headlight conversion
hm, diskussiooni mõttes, kui seda imaget vaadata:
siis 4100k on suht kollane valgus? alles 5000 pealt hakkab sinakaks kiskuma. Ei ole nagu näinud väga kollaseid hid-e ringi sõitmas, aga võibolla pole lihtsalt osanud tähele panna?
Siis hinnatakse xeonide puhul seda, et valgem/sinakam valgus ei pimesta vastutulijat nii palju, kui erekollane, kas see 4100k jääb erekollaste piiridesse?
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| 17.03.2006 at 14:57 |
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fire83
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Firebird Headlight conversion
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Do a little research and buy from a reputable site, like xenonking, and you'll be fine. I'd highly recommend not going with a color temp above 6000k as you start losing light output. I think the highest light output is 3000k, though at that temp they look yellowish. 4000k should look almost completely white and 6000k is starting to get a slight blue/purple tint. Once you get over 8000k it's just a ricer blue look and has about 1/3 to 1/2 the output of the 3000k. It's still brighter than halogens, but not as bright as HID should be.
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| 17.03.2006 at 15:14 |
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Taurus_93
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Firebird Headlight conversion
4100 on nendel autodel millel tehasest ksenoon. Audi, bmw jne. puhas valge võibolla örnalt sinakas. 3000K pirni sa vaevalt kuskilt leiad.
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Cadillac STS 3,6 05´
Subaru Outback 2.5 AWD 07´
Ex: Taurus LX 93´ (4 tükki oli neid lausa)
Ex: Chrysler 300M 00´
Yamaha YZF-R6 |
| 17.03.2006 at 15:23 |
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fire83
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Firebird Headlight conversion
Kellelgi on 8000K-ga probleeme, võibolla muidugi vastutulijad ei saa aru et on HID... Asjast uurt midagi teadmata, tundub, et alla 4000K ja üle 6000K ajada ei tasuks.
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I did the HID Xenon kit on my low beams, 8000K temp.
I get people flashing their bright at me even with them at the correct angle of adjustment.
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| 17.03.2006 at 15:31 |
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fire83
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3000K pirni sa vaevalt kuskilt leiad.
wrong
http://www.xenonking.com/
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| 17.03.2006 at 15:41 |
1 edit. Last edited 17.03.2006 at 15:41 by fire83
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anryo
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Firebird Headlight conversion
Asi hakkab juba seda mõõtu võtma, et vaja ühisost organiseerida või... 
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| 17.03.2006 at 15:59 |
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fire83
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Firebird Headlight conversion
3000K has an approximately 3200lm output, which is more than 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light. 3000K emits GOLDEN YELLOW color and offers superior penetration power during adverse weather epically in dense fog. The applications of the 3000K kit aim more towards secondary lighting apparatus such as high beam and fog lights. The 3000K capsule is actually a 5000K capsule specially coated with a film that filters out all the wave length except the range of wave length which emits yellow.
4300K has an approximately 3200lm output, which is more than 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light and is the color temperature with the most output. The light appears fairly white, and has light yellowish hue when reflected off the road identical to the OEM HID equipped vehicles. This color is for customers who is looking for pure performance white improving the looks of their headlight. It is idea for customers who does a lot of back road or canyon driving and need the optimal visibility.
5000K has an approximately 3200lm output, which is more than 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light and is the color temperature with the most output. The light appears fairly white, and has light yellowish hue when reflected off the road identical to the OEM HID equipped vehicles. This color is for customers who is looking for pure performance white improving the looks of their headlight. It is idea for customers who does a lot of back road or canyon driving and need the optimal visibility.
6000K has an approximately 2800lm output, which is 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light and slightly less light output compared to the 5000K. Although it has a bit lesser light output, it emits pure whiter light with very slight and barely noticeable tint of blue.
8000K has an approximately 2550lm output, which is about 3x the light output of the traditional halogen light and slightly less light output compared to the 6000K. While it has a bit lesser light output, it emits bluer light than the 6000K.
10000K has an approximately 2200lm output, which is more than 2x the light output of the traditional halogen light. 10000K produces a deep blue light output approaching violet and the blue is noticeably deeper than the 8000K.
12000K has an approximately 2100lm output, which is more than 2x the light output of the traditional halogen light. This color temperature puts out a deep bluish violet light and is deeper colored than the 10000K. It is for customer who is looking for the most extreme and most exotic looking light output.
edit: sry copy-paste pärast xenonking lehelt, aga loodetavasti on see inf komplekteerituna sel viisil diskussiooni mõttes mugavam kasutada.
Järeldus on see, et 6000K pealt hakkab juba valgustugevus nõrgenema.
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| 17.03.2006 at 15:59 |
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Taurus_93
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Firebird Headlight conversion
Mina võtsin endale 6000K kuna seal oli väline ilu ja valgusjõu suhe kõige parem Üle selle ei soovita tempi ajada.
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Cadillac STS 3,6 05´
Subaru Outback 2.5 AWD 07´
Ex: Taurus LX 93´ (4 tükki oli neid lausa)
Ex: Chrysler 300M 00´
Yamaha YZF-R6 |
| 17.03.2006 at 19:08 |
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fire83
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Firebird Headlight conversion
Kust võtsid ja mis maksis kui saladus pole?
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'08 Oranzh HHR LT
'93 Must TransAm
'83 Punane Firebird |
| 17.03.2006 at 19:49 |
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Taurus_93
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Firebird Headlight conversion
www.xenon-eesti.ee
Lett oli 5000.- aga mõningase jutustamise tulemusel sai 4000.- kätte. Väga rahul siiani. Osadel ksenoonidel -20C on süttimis probleemid, nendel need puuduvad
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Cadillac STS 3,6 05´
Subaru Outback 2.5 AWD 07´
Ex: Taurus LX 93´ (4 tükki oli neid lausa)
Ex: Chrysler 300M 00´
Yamaha YZF-R6 |
| 17.03.2006 at 20:02 |
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F.I.R.E
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Firebird Headlight conversion
hm, ku saaks ka 4k eest kätte, oleks mõtekas siitmaalt osta... eks esmaspäeval uurib. |
| 17.03.2006 at 21:56 |
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